WORKSHOP OBJECTIVES
• To promote cooperation, coordination and consultation between/among various
agencies involved in projects at or near the border
• To share experiences of
planning and constructing projects and maintenance and operations issues
• To
get a better understanding of all the processes and approval requirements
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To identify issues that might need to be addressed to make the process more
efficient
WORKSHOP SUMMARY
Opening remarks by Walter Steeves
Session #1: Border Project Identification &
Scope
Different missions; e.g., border agencies’ priority is security; MOTs and
DOTs look to economic development and traffic flow (safety issue also expressed
later).
• This is not necessarily bad; each has its own “expertise” and
funding
• Problems arise when this expertise and funding become drivers to
solutions
• Important factor is communications – the question(s) are how soon
and in what fashion
• A point made later was the need to identify these
priorities and responsibilities to identify the “overlap”; these could become
areas of conflict or areas where partnering could be advantageous
Money on the table aids the “fluidity” of communications, but most important
is that all partners are around the table from the very beginning. Those who
don’t identify a role for their agencies can drop out, but it is assured that
everyone who needs to be involved is involved throughout the process.
• Need to not miss any key elements
• Need to look at complete system
(simple example is that realignment of road or relocation of booths must ensure
that they
both line up; can’t be done independently)
• Should
be a way to ensure everyone is at table short of getting politicians or courts
involved
• Note from previous day’s site tour: These investments are going to last a
very long time; there is a need to get it right at the beginning.
Call for a “champion” to get these messages out; to let people and groups
know what groups such as EBTC are doing – call for a “bugle”.
Discussion of projects and at workshops such as this, need to be at the
regional or project level rather than national.
• Informal agreements can be
as effective as formal agreements and a lot easier to obtain
• Personal
relationships are very important and can be very valuable in dealing with
problems, particularly in a “crisis” situation
• There is a level of trust
and confidence necessary
• These are built as a history is developed
Identification of points of contact:
• This is different from who the
public calls, which in the case of back-ups at borders is not always
correct
• But is it any easier for professionals?
• To how soon and in
what fashion, now add at what level to make a request
• “What level” could
refer to the person having sufficient authority to make a decision; also getting
to the right person who can sell it to those
above
In summary: There is a need for a Team Effort (all the people), Agreements
(Commitment), and Getting Agreement from the right person/at the right
level.
Data Exchange
The purpose of data is to inform the decision makers; data has a neutral
characteristic.
• Data needs to address the “Expectations of Users” – e.g.,
travelers, localities; borders, corridors.
• Ability to address challenges –
What happens when changes are made? Are they needed? What variables are being
looked at?
• What are the impacts at the local, system levels?
What are the impacts on modes?
Trade: crosses border, but also goes deeper into both countries.
• What
are the impacts of delay – to the border? at the border?
Deficiencies, gaps in the data:
• What’s out there? What can be
shared
• How can the various agencies cooperate in sharing data? Start with
small meetings to discuss what data is required and what might
be available for sharing.
• Confidentiality, but also compatibility of
data
• Ability to combine data collection needs – more data than any one
agency needs, but one collection site to increase compatibility
while reducing costs; but not so much that the collection gets unwieldy and
conflicts with missions
Data sharing as a method of building “history” between/among agencies; way to
connect agencies.
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SESSION #1 OUTCOMES
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- All agencies must cooperate to ensure efficient border operations
- Initial consultation on proposed projects should include all
agencies which might have some involvement
- Developing personal relationships is very helpful, particularly in
addressing problems (emergency situations)
- Have to consider that the border is a “system” made up of individual
parts and consideration is required to determine how new projects tie in
- Data exchange is beneficial
- Points of contact of every agency involved at the border should be
available. For any new project at the border, all stakeholders should
have access to the appropriate points of contact in every other agency.
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Session #2: Project Planning
Blue Water Bridge:
• Problem is not the bridge; problem is the U.S.
plaza
• Plaza owned by Michigan DOT (18 acres)
• Traffic projections to
2030 (but already changing)
• Evolution of process – need to use current
facility? Need to have a clearer policy re outbound inspections. Current policy
doesn’t appear to be consistent at all crossings.
• Alternatives
vary from 70 to 95 to 145 acres, at existing location or moved 1½ miles to a
more rural location
• CBP “comfort zone” of where they are located,
sufficient size; impacts to city in general, and specifically to
neighborhood
NEPA process: With MDOT as lead, the NEPA process is open; GSA/CBP used to a
more closed process of public involvement and information distribution. The key
was to look for opportunities to coordinate these processes; invite all
stakeholders to work as cooperating agencies on developing NEPA document.
Lessons Learned:
• Local agency decisions need to be approved at
higher levels
• GSA/CBP have expertise, but need clarification even between
these two
• Project needs to be a priority for every agency involved – need
commitments from key agencies
• Keep local stakeholders involved and
informed; don’t underestimate their ability to get politicians involved
•
Benefits at the regional/national level, but impacts are at the local level
•
Need to understand border dynamics: Technologies and organizations change, as
well as missions, rules and regulations (e.g., US-VISIT, FAST,
NEXUS); need to be flexible in contracts
• Environmental approvals –
understand roles of others; everyone needs to understand their own roles
(responsibilities)
Cascade Gateway
Competing needs:
• Security #1/bolster economies
• Jurisdictional
priorities
• Multitude of agencies
Timing of funding (when does it actually come) – impact on scheduling; and
the impact of limitations on use.
The timeline is very long term:
• There is a need to get agencies,
politicians to realize just how long
• How often to re-run numbers
The following questions were addressed during discussion:
• Joint Facility
Plans: Negotiations have been more difficult in part due to a change in Canadian
government; announcement concerning Shared Border Management
expected December 2006.
• Outbound Inspections: The goal is interdiction of
the proceeds of terrorists, stolen vehicles and equipment, and critical products, technology not authorized for export.
o In both
cases, there is not necessarily a harmonization of laws, regulations to have
other country provide through an agreement.
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SESSION #2 OUTCOMES
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- Cooperation on environmental process on both sides of the border is
critical (understand roles of others)
- Need commitments from all key agencies at earliest possible time
- Keep public well informed
- Flexibility required to accommodate changes
- Long lead times are required for projects
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Session #3: Project Construction
Shared Project Management: Calais-St. Stephen
Rather than funding issues, this project displayed fiscal issues – taxes,
duties
• Movement of work force, materials
• Learning process for
contractors (a different stakeholder perspective)
Other issues included:
• Labor
• Taxes on materials
• Security on
job site – what’s the process? can the project site be fenced?
• Waterways
requirements
Queenston-Lewiston
Project summary:
• Widened from 4 to 5 lanes to at least in part
accommodate FAST lane
• Bridge has no room for queuing, plus safety concerns
to split auto and truck traffic
Was it successful (ahead of schedule, below budget) because of the
organizational structure (i.e., an International Bridge Commission)?
•
US/Canadian workers each starting in the middle and working back
• Bridge
Commission as project manager
• Few 3rd party ownerships
• Dealt only with
bridge, but did not touch plazas
Labor: Employing Foreign Workers
Discussed a whole different process and identified a new partner for
inclusion when considering the need for everyone to be in the same room.
•
Might not need to be there in the beginning or at every meeting
• Like every
other agency, also has timelines so need to include early on when building
schedule
Session Summary:
• Complexity versus ridiculous – you be the judge
•
Does it matter whether facility is tolled or free
• Is an international
bridge commission the answer, or is every bridge, every operator different
•
Approval requirements – impact on schedule
• Easy to underestimate
Presidential Permit requirements
• Need for a “DMZ” for construction,
possibly better to work through on the local level
• Don’t involve national
level unless absolutely necessary
• Need to streamline process; identify
changes in regulations and legislation
There was quite a bit of discussion at this point concerning the need to
“memorialize” these proceedings; i.e., develop a “How to” guide for border
infrastructure projects.
• Put together a report with sections concerning
land/water crossings, construction/operations (e.g., snow plowing)
• This
could/should be an EBTC sponsored activity, with participation by others
•
Understand that this is a very dynamic process that may not lend itself to best
practices, but that it would be valuable as an initial guide
because it would identify the process steps
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SESSION #3 OUTCOMES
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- There is a need for a “how to” guide on border projects
- Understand all of the processes and the time it will take to get
approvals
- Being an International Bridge Commission makes the process easier
- Fiscal issues sometimes more critical than financial
- There is a need to identify “old” regulations which should be
considered for change or removal
- Need for flexibility on worker security on the construction site
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Session #4: Maintenance and Operations
ITS
Included:
• Need for maintenance agreement agreed to by all
•
Installation and maintenance responsibilities
• Use of cameras (security
issue)
• Focus on travel time – use of alternative crossings
• Making sure
that message signs are working and displaying correct information
•
Communications Protocol - Incident management; who to call
• Prioritizing ITS
investment
• East/West Border Circulation Study
• SAFETEA-LU and Border
Infrastructure Funding
• Impact of the continued expansion of FAST/NEXUS
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Snow (and ice) removal – why it can be done at some locations (agreements,
understandings; responsibilities); understanding the
geometrics involved
Maintenance and MPT (Maintenance and Protection of Traffic), as well as MPT
for inspection
• General traffic control issues (safety issue)
• Impact of
outbound inspections as a safety issue, and as an incident delay issue (need to
inform public). There doesn’t appear to be consistent
treatment of CBP outbound inspections at the various crossings.
• First step
is to get everyone to sit down together; second is to actually start a
meaningful dialogue
• Vermont had offered to train agents in terms of how to
safely control traffic (proper signage; use of cones, flags, etc.)
•
Understanding that export control and standard border control are two different
groupings within CBP
CVO
Included:
• Inspections – local, state police; state inspectors with no
police powers
• No fixed facilities, but will have one at Champlain-Lacolle
(availability of controlled truck flow)
• Safety as primary focus; security
is different
• Just starting to investigate use of data as feed-in to
inspections – need more information; quicker and better information
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Opportunities at Champlain to coordinate expanded data collection
• Data
collection technology – relational data base provides expanded
possibilities
• Linkages of databases (scrubbed for confidentiality);
agreements with Quebec
• Permanent facilities at borders but not internal
(bad guys learn quickly and can bypass)
• Use of NORPASS, and expand
•
Communications in cab very important
• What benefit can you show commercial
vehicle industry
Bridge Operator Perspective
Included:
• Service and maintenance needs for Weigh–in-Motion; reliability
- reliance on enforcement agencies
• WHTI will reduce traffic by 30% - impact
on tolls; impact on local economies
• Impact of Department of Agriculture
fee
• Impact of new NYS environmental rules – surcharge on disposal of paint
chips, salt management plan
• CBSA labor issues – operator disruption
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Video identification to monitor operations, enhance security
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SESSION #4 OUTCOMES
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- Local agreements on snow and ice removal seem to work best
- Need for ongoing consultations
- Safety is a primary focus
- ITS investments need to be prioritized and coordinate
- Message signs need to be timely and accurate
- Need for better understanding of CBP outbound inspection policy and
its application at various crossings
- Need for local maintenance/operations agreement
- Need for communication protocol
- Should look for opportunities to cooperate on data collection and
sharing
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Workshop Wrap-Up Summary and Closing Remarks
Overall comments and discussion indicated that workshop was very successful
in getting most everyone into the same room; further, everyone should be
commended for the level of participation throughout. Focus was on next steps and
the need for follow-up to take the message of this meeting and to begin to
communicate them to other responsible agencies, organizations, politicians and
the public.
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ITEMS IDENTIFIED FOR
FOLLOW-UP
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- Identify “old” regulations which could be changed or eliminated
- Prepare a “how to” guide for border infrastructure projects which
would identify all of the necessary approvals and processes
- Develop basis for communication protocol
- Hold inter-agency meetings to identify data available for sharing or
possible cooperation in obtaining data
- Continue to “trumpet” the need for consultation and coordination on
border projects
- Identify the labor laws and regulations applicable to work at the
border
- Investigate possibilities of “arrangements” for workers on border
projects to allow easy access to work site while meeting security
concerns
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ATTENDEES
| NAME |
ORGANIZATION |
| Adriana Estable |
Quebec Ministry of Transportation |
| Alicia Nolan |
Federal Highway Administration |
| Ataur Bacchus |
Ontario Ministry of Transportation |
| Robert Blanchard |
U.S. Bureau of Customs and Border Protection |
| Benoit Cayouette |
Quebec Ministry of Transportation |
| Bernie Swan |
Nova Scotia Department of Transportation and Public Works |
| Brian Kirch |
New York State Department of Transportation |
| Catherine Larocque |
Quebec Ministry of Transportation |
| Christopher Perry |
U.S. Bureau of Customs and Border Protection |
| Daniel Lagacé |
Canadian Border Services Agency |
| Dave Henry |
Quebec Ministry of Transportation |
| Dave Wake |
Ontario Ministry of Transportation |
| Denis Laplante |
Canadian Border Services Agency |
| Rick McDonough |
New York State Department of Transportation |
| Eleni Churchill |
Vermont Agency of Transportation |
| Fausto Natarelli |
Ontario Ministry of Transportation |
| Gordon Rogers |
Whatcom Council of Governments |
| Greg Nadeau |
Maine Department of Transportation |
| Jerry Cioffi |
New York State Department of Transportation |
| Jerry Gluss |
Canadian Border Services Agency |
| John Reed |
New York State Department of Transportation |
| Juan A. Perez-Febles |
Maine Department of Labor |
| Karen Songhurst |
Vermont Agency of Transportation |
| Kevin Rousseau |
Maine Department of Transportation |
| Kris Wisniewski |
Michigan Department of Transportation |
| Margaret Grant-McGivney |
New Brunswick Department of Transportation |
| Mark Decker |
Niagara Falls Bridge Commission |
| Martin Talbot |
Quebec Ministry of Transportation |
| Pat Cruickshank |
British Columbia Ministry of Transportation |
| Paul Arvanitidis |
Transport Canada |
| Phil Bergen |
Regional Municipality of Niagara |
| Karl St.Georges |
Service Canada |
| Ralph Scalise |
U.S. General Services Administration |
| Rik Saaltink |
Seaway International Bridge Corporation |
| Rob Tardif |
Ontario Ministry of Transportation |
| Luc Lefebvre |
Quebec Ministry of Transportation |
| Sara Moore |
Michigan Department of Transportation |
| Susi Derrah |
New Brunswick Department of Transportation |
| Sylvain Saumure |
Canadian Border Services Agency |
| Todd Carlson |
Washington State Department of Transportation |
| Todd Davis |
Wilbur Smith Associates |
| Jean Cheney |
Canadian Border Services Agency |
| Walter Steeves |
EBTC |